What do people believe happened to Hatshesput?

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As far as most commentators can tell, Hatshepsut, daughter to Thutmose I had a half brother (or step-brother) named Thutmose II. They were married or acted as joint regents perhaps but Thutmose seems to have died either prematurely or before her if he was an older man. William Flinders Petrie found a fresco of two royal children from "The South" describing what seems to have been a marriage and/or coronation of a royal prince and princess. What seems to have happened is that Egypt and Ethiopia agreed to establish a United Kingdom to rule the Nile lands after the Hyksos were evicted. It now appears these Hyksos were the Amalekites that the Bible says Kings Saul and David of Israel defeated. By returning the 18th dynasty monarchs of Egypt-Ethiopia to the 11th to 9th centuries BC, we restore both ancient Egyptian and Middle Eastern history and the Bible's credibility.

The Ethiopians were happy to have a queen but Egyptians only wanted male rulers. When Hatshepsut's consort, husband or half-brother Thutmose died, she insisted she should reign in her own right. A very good comparison is Elizabeth I of England who fought much prejudice on her way to queenship. In fact, Elizabeth's experience shows us that Hatshepsut followed similar footsteps. If Hatshepsut is Sheba, then it is even more likely the two queens are similar. "Elizabeth" could be written "El-Sheba-eth" which means "The Sheba of God". A Sheba in ancient Egypt and Israel was either one who "sat" (sheb) or "wrote" (s-p-r, or soper). These were responsibilities of monarchs: sitting, administering, ruling, or writing decrees, laws and statutes. The Papyrus and Bee were symbols of royal authority in Egypt. The "bee" was devorah which means "wording" in Hebrew (and probably ancient Semitic Egyptian) or making words as a bee makes coded signs to other bees when she returns to a hive with news of the whereabouts of nectar. Thus the symbols of words and paper were clearly royal. Both Hatshepsut, especially as the Sheba who visited Solomon from the Jewish Biblical record, and Elizabeth I of England, were brilliant individuals, gifted in languages, writing, diplomacy and peace-making.

However, her peace policy with Israel and Phoenicia ("Punt") irritated the Egyptian army and her new theology (converting to belief in Israel's Jehovah) angered the pagan Egyptian priests. Thus plotting no doubt emerged. Hatshepsut might have retired or abdicated in favour of Thutmose who may well have been yet another, but much later, half - or step-brother from the Thutmose I concubines. The mystery of Hatshepsut's end is de-mystified when we realise she was Sheba and understand how her conversion and policies would have created many domestic political crises. The people probably adored her but nobles, bureaucrats, priests and others may well have been enraged that the God who left Egypt destitute in 1485 BC (at Moses' Exodus) should become The God of Hatshepsut. Her demise becomes logical and obvious under these circumstances and drives us to the inescapable conclusion that Egyptian chronology is a complete mess (chaos).

We need to restore order to this chaos (Egyptian maat). Preferably, without having to overthrow the Egyptologists, bring in the army and restore order. Better to discuss and debate the issues. Sadly, Egyptologists are so closed-minded that it now seems very unlikely they will change their minds. The one thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history. Also. they are doomed to repeat its mistakes. When Hatshepsut sits in "condemnation" over the Jewish leaders who rejected Jesus, Matthew 12:42 and Luke 11:31, no doubt the Egyptologists, unless they change their minds, will be there too.

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PLEASE NOTE THAT THE REVISED CHRONOLOGY CANNOT BE CORRECT AS CARBONDATING HAS SHOWN IT TO BE OTHERWISE. PLEASE FOLLOW THE LINK BELOW TO SEE HOW WE KNOW THAT HATSHEPSUT WAS BORN TO EARLY TO BE SHEBA.

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Regarding radiocarbon dates for Tutankhamun, Peter James et al, British archaeologists writing in Centuries of Darkness, Jonathan Cape, London, 1991, quoting information from Editor S. Talbott, in Pensee 4:1, 5-19 in 1973/4 reported on the following: Two radiocarbon tests were performed by the British Museum on reeds (BM-642A) and dom-palm nut kernels (BM-642B) from the tomb of Tutankhamun. The results, c. 846 bc and c. 899 bc (standard deviations not available), were never formally published. Their existence came to light only when they were 'leaked' by Mr Bruce Mainwaring, co-ordinator of a radiocarbon project conducted by the University of Pennsylvania in conjunction with the British Museum (Talbott 1973/1974).

This WikiAnswers editor has interviewed a British Museum curator about this and is aware of acute embarrassment the Museum faces on this. These matters go well beyond the orbit of the above question about Hatshepsut but they do show that there is a massive amount of data-suppression going on and the identity of Hatshepsut is a central battlefield on which this war is being conducted.

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Experts have used scientific dating techniques to verify the historical chronology of ancient Egypt.

Radiocarbon dating was used to show that the chronology of Egypt's Old, Middle and New Kingdoms is indeed accurate.

The researchers dated seeds found in pharaohs' tombs, including some from the tomb of the King Tutankhamun.

They write in the journal Science that some of the samples are more than 4,500 years old.

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The Great Pyramid probably gets this award in most people's thinking. However, arguably, Hatshepsut's temple at Deir el-Bahari near Thebes, Southern Egypt, is "the most famous ancient site in Egypt".

The reason is that it is almost universally accepted that the temple is like no other temple, or even building/construction in Egypt. It ignores most Egyptian concepts in a temple. And the reason for that is because Hatshepsut (or H'at-Sheba-Sut, the Ensigned Sheba of the South = Egypt-Ethiopia) is The Queen Sheba of Ophir recorded in the Jewish Bible (I Kings 9:26 to 10:13). The "Ophir" of the Bible in this chapter is spelled "Auphirah". More accurately it is Afirah or Africa. Hatshepsut-Sheba was "The Great African Queen". The Bible implies God raised her up to declare the Glory of Solomon for later generations. The temple at Deir el-Bahari evokes the words of Song of Solomon 2:14: "O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs ..." (Italics indicate words necessary for a smoother English translation). Thus the temple is "The Sign" (H'at) of the "Sheba" of the "Sut" (Suten-bat). The middle syllable 'Sheba' or perhaps 'Sepa' refers either to the fact of her sitting and dwelling (Semitic, sheb) or sitting and writing (Semitic, soper), or both via a play on Semitic-Hebrew words.

Josephus Flavius ("Queen of Egypt and Ethiopia"), Jesus ("Queen of the South") and the Tanaach (I Kings 9:26 to 10:13, malchat sheba or 'the queen who sits and rules or judges in Auphirah'), effectively all talk about the same person. Only Hatshepsut fits those parameters as far as we can describe from current archaeological data. Another candidate and evidence of her existence may lie buried elsewhere. If that is the case, Hatshepsut almost seems to have built a picture of herself as if she was Queen Sheba. That would demonstrate that the Biblical record of a Queen Sheba, perhaps somewhere else in Africa, is nevertheless still true and accurate. It would just mean that in Hatshepsut we do not have the original but an imitator or counterfeit. That gives us a null hypothesis to work on, so vital to proper scientific scientific research. At the moment, assuming Hatshepsut is "Sheba", we are suggesting the discovery of her mummy would prove she is not. That is because the current state of our knowledge does not know the whereabouts of Hatshepsut's mummy. If Hatshepsut did indeed visit Solomon, and as the Bible's account explains, she believed Jehovah and abandoned paganism, we would expect her body to lie peacefully, undisturbed, until the First Resurrection of all people which Jesus and the Apostle Paul said would be the one involving believers (= saints). "Unbelievers" participate in the Second or Last Resurrection and go to various degrees of eternal punishment and separation from God's Kingdom.

Recent toothless attempts to claim Hatshepsut's mummy has been found are far from convincing. Personally, it would save this researcher a lot of time and effort if we could say we had found Hatshepsut's mummy.

However, the temple of Hatshepsut at Deir el-Bahari, its excavation and decipherment of hieroglyphs on the temple walls concluded by 1948, has essentially resurrected in the same year the nation of Israel as a member of the 'family of nations' did - 1948. Just as Israel survived the ashes of the Holocaust, Hatshepsut's temple was preserved for 3000 years by the rubble from the hills behind the cliff. Thutmose III and his cronies buried the temple to obliterate any memory of her. Ironically, they unwittingly preserved her memory for us today, so Egyptologists have tried to blot out the Queen Sheba's existence and succeed where Thutmose failed.

For the people of Israel there is indeed amazing evidence for the existence of Solomon's great temple, the most fantastic site in the ancient world to which "all the kings of the earth visited". Almost none of the original's remains, in any way that they can be definitely identified, lie beneath modern Jerusalem. A half-completed copy of Solomon's, i.e., its frontage as one might see it travelling up to Jerusalem from the Aravah, past Jericho and past the terraced hills surrounding Jerusalem that yielded the fruits of many exotic trees, stands in almost pristine condition in Egypt. Just as Egypt accommodated the ancient Israelites from 1900 to 1500 BC, so today it accommodates a replica of Solomon's temple and that, albeit subjectively, qualifies it for the title "most famous ancient site in Egypt". If Sheba is not Hatshepsut, this claim is greatly weakened although some surveys suggest it is about the third most popular site for tourists today.

God knows best of course and He sits in the Heavens and laughs at Man's attempts to obliterate belief in God via Darwinism and false Egyptology and many other 'sciences' and 'arts'.

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Hatshepsut is not connected to Sheba. We can tell this by a method called carbon dating (please see the link below).

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WikiAnswers does not allow links to be inserted in people's answers, so unfortunately the above link cannot be shown.

To illustrate problems with "carbon-dating" the following may be of interest:

Regarding radiocarbon dates for Tutankhamun, Peter James et al, British archaeologists writing in Centuries of Darkness, Jonathan Cape, London, 1991, quoting information from Editor S. Talbott, in Pensee 4:1, 5-19 in 1973/4 reported on the following: Two radiocarbon tests were performed by the British Museum on reeds (BM-642A) and dom-palm nut kernels (BM-642B) from the tomb of Tutankhamun. The results, c. 846 bc and c. 899 bc (standard deviations not available), were never formally published. Their existence came to light only when they were 'leaked' by Mr Bruce Mainwaring, co-ordinator of a radiocarbon project conducted by the University of Pennsylvania in conjunction with the British Museum (Talbott 1973/1974).

This WikiAnswers editor has interviewed a British Museum curator about this and is aware of acute embarrassment the Museum faces on this. These matters go well beyond the orbit of the above question about Hatshepsut but they do show that there is a massive amount of data-suppression going on and the identity of Hatshepsut is a central battlefield on which this war is being conducted.

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"Experts have used scientific dating techniques to verify the historical chronology of ancient Egypt.

Radiocarbon dating was used to show that the chronology of Egypt's Old, Middle and New Kingdoms is indeed accurate.

The researchers dated seeds found in pharaohs' tombs, including some from the tomb of the King Tutankhamun.

They write in the journal Science that some of the samples are more than 4,500 years old."

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Carbon dating of wheat seeds at Tel Beth She'an, Israel, supposedly prove the forts of Sety I and Ramesses III date to circa the 13th and 12th centuries BC. However, their forts lie above that of King Saul (1000 BC).

Radio-metric techniques, used to supposedly "prove" the orthodox chronology of ancient Egyptian kings and dynasties, are widely agreed to be ineffectual because most samples are contaminated with rare exceptions such as material found in Tutenkhamen's tomb. In some cases the date might be quite accurate but one would not really know because it is almost impossible to isolate the manner or degree of contamination (if any in reality). Thus traditional techniques such as ceramic sequencing and triangulation of textual or written data (hieroglyphs, scrolls etc.,) are still the best tools to work with. At the end of the process, a radio-metric result may have some residual validity but not when, for example, a date contradicted a text such as Merneptah's "Israel's seed is destroyed; the land razed (shaved) to the ground" supposedly in 1210 BC when the same event described in Israel's history was in 586 BC. Merneptah was Ramesses II's son. Thus Ramesses II would have to be a 7th century BC king despite what any radio-metric result would suggest. Far better to rely on the texts than on contaminated samples subjected to 'chemical analysis'.

However, as experience has shown, the use of textual data such as Biblical material must be done wisely and carefully without jumping to too hasty conclusions as happened with the interpretation of Exodus 1:11.