Are saini's original rajputs

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If you are referring to Sainis of Punjab who do not intermarry outside the state, then the asnwer is Yes. They are largely descendants of Tanwar-Jadaun Rajputs who ruled Mathura, Bayana, Delhi , etc till 1100 AD. This Tanwar-Jadaun Rajput line coming down from Pandvas and Yadavas of ancient time was called "Saini" as short form of "Shoorsaini". Delhi and Mathura area was part of Shoorsaini (Surasena) kingdom and its rulers were accordingly called "Saini". The Chaunsat Khamba mural in Kaman contains the names of many Saini kings of this region.

According to native accounts they came to Punjab around 11 00 AD to fight Muhammad Ghazni and other Turk invaders. Their clan names have a large overlap with Hill/Dogra Rajputs, in particularly Pathania Rajputs who are also Tanwar descent. Pathania Rajputs have a similar story of their migration from the kingdom of Delhi and Mathura around the same time. Their ancestor founded the fort of Dhameri in Pathankot which was renamed to Nurpur later on. It is to be noted that Dhamrait is a major and dominant clan of Sainis in Hoshiarpuir and Gurdaspur districts of Punjab. In the hills the same clan is found among Pathania Rajputs as Dhamrial. This clan is linked with the fort of Dhameri. Further, there is a Dhameri near Delhi as well which gives the suggestion that the identical ancestors of Pathanias and Saini Rajputs moved from this region and founded another town with the same name to preserve the memory of original home near Delhi and Mathura.

Some people say that Tanwars are not Yadavs but Pandavas. But Col. Tod believed Tanwars are Yadavs. Sri Krishna also had a son called Tamra Bhadra. This line may have been named after him as Sainis of Punjab who have large number of Tanwar Rajput clans such as Badwal, Biloria, Mangar, Dhamrait (Dhamrial) , etc invariably claim Jadaun Rajput descent. Even if Tanwars are descendants of Pandavas they would still be linked with Maharaja Shoorsen (the founder of Saini dynasty) through matrilineal blood line. Truth may be somewhat in between as descendants of Yadavas and Pandavas got deeply interfused due to intermarriages.

ABO blood group analysis of Sainis and Hill Rajputs published in American Journal of Physhical Anthropology in 1961 showed almost identical strains (with non-significant differences) which further gives credence to the view that the latter or the former have originated from each other. The term "Saini" or "Shoorsaini" is much older in history than the term Rajput which also gives the indication that many of Jadaun and Tanwar Rajput clans originated from Saini rulers of Mathura and Delhi.

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